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Poster: cosmicharlie Date: Aug 14, 2006 5:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are some Deadheads mad at Israel?

excellent! Churchill had to face a lot of Natzi appeasement-

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Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: Aug 14, 2006 7:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are some Deadheads mad at Israel?

This whole political thread gets a big WTF from yours truly. I am, however, pleased at the political diversity shown among the posters. I offer another quote, attributed to Churchill that might offer some insight.

Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has not heart; and any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains.

I would be over 30. Way over.

This post was modified by Earl B. Powell on 2006-08-15 02:13:30

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Aug 14, 2006 7:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are some Deadheads mad at Israel?

spaced must be lost somewhere in between - he has not heart nor no brains. in other words, he must be French!! go to the Eifel Tower and take a plunge dear Spaced - you know not what you are talking about. GD lyrics do not make one's life - if you think so, you are more lost that you even know. i feel sorry for you - please watch the news/cnn/msnbc or something and learn about the world around you rather than quoting Eyes or some other utopian claptrack - that is not the world we live in.

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Poster: midnight sun Date: Aug 15, 2006 1:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are some Deadheads sad?

the afternoon of 9/11/01 this statement was spoken on news television by an ordinary American citizen on the street;

"It is sad to know that we have allowed ourselves to become so hated by the rest of the world."

notice that sides are not taken, nor reasons identified,
just regret for not putting more effort towards preventing so many misunderstandings

best wishes and heal quickly

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Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: Aug 15, 2006 7:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are some Deadheads mad at Israel?

Freedom is the ability to listen to the Dead or Rush Limbaugh on your XM radio. Now, how can that not be the greatest country in the world, I ask you.

With regrets to Al Franken.

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Poster: Spaced Date: Aug 15, 2006 10:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are some Deadheads mad at God for giving Muslims oil?

>>>Freedom is the ability to listen to the Dead or Rush Limbaugh on your XM radio. Now, how can that not be the greatest country in the world>>>

Listening is great, but it's a narrow range of freedom in town "ever since they tore the jukebox down" -- We can do much better.

Would the greatest country in the world continually commit crimes against humanity, even their own troops? Why a costly war based on false pretense where killing innocents creates rage? Why deny climate change and block alternative energy? And surely there's a place where the Rainbow Family can meet in peace.

Does the greatest country perpetrate systematic torture even though it doesn't yield useful intelligence (see the latest work of Alfred McCoy). If you notice, I'm trying to back up statements with actual facts.

Take a look at "Beyond Treason: The U.S. Government’s Long History of Conducting Deadly Military Experiments." It's a documentary film documenting how the U.S. military has repeatedly conducted deadly medical experiments on American troops, “enemy” soldiers, and civilians. The film discusses vaccines, atomic bomb testing, Agent Orange, depleted uranium, and more.


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Poster: Spaced Date: Aug 15, 2006 10:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Are some Deadheads mad at God for giving Muslims oil?

And please I'm not saying people can't change. I did, though, as you can tell, not enough.

The point is to aim high, or risk shooting a friend in the face!

We can all learn from Lee Atwater, GOP chairman and Karl Rove's teacher, who repented from dirty tricks (from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Atwater):

"Shortly before his death from a brain tumor he said he had converted to Catholicism and, in an act of repentance, issued a number of public and written apologies to individuals whom he had attacked during his political career, including Dukakis. In a letter to Tom Turnipseed dated June 28, 1990, he stated, "It is very important to me that I let you know that out of everything that has happened in my career, one of the low points remains the so called 'jumper cable' episode," adding, "my illness has taught me something about the nature of humanity, love, brotherhood and relationships that I never understood, and probably never would have. So, from that standpoint, there is some truth and good in everything." [2]

In a February 1991 article for Life Magazine, Atwater wrote:

My illness helped me to see that what was missing in society is what was missing in me: a little heart, a lot of brotherhood. The '80s were about acquiring -- acquiring wealth, power, prestige. I know. I acquired more wealth, power, and prestige than most. But you can acquire all you want and still feel empty. What power wouldn't I trade for a little more time with my family? What price wouldn't I pay for an evening with friends? It took a deadly illness to put me eye to eye with that truth, but it is a truth that the country, caught up in its ruthless ambitions and moral decay, can learn on my dime. I don't know who will lead us through the '90s, but they must be made to speak to this spiritual vacuum at the heart of American society, this tumor of the soul."


This post was modified by Spaced on 2006-08-16 05:25:45